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Oh I saw this a few days ago.
Very cool!

Will there be infos about species like Marginals and Angels?

yep i plan on adding stuff about the species and anything relevant like how their abilities work and all that

I can't seem to get onto the wiki when I click on the link.
Is there something wrong with it or certain access or..?

I remember going on it before and it was fine but idk what's happened now.
- I was gonna go onto it since I know it describes Sar's clothes and I'm making a cosplay-kind-of outfit for it.
Is there by any chance a picture of him fully ref of the back and front?
Ik there's still some pic's of his doll on Tumblr which I can try to see to get a better look at + I1-P4 but it would really help since I'll be hand-stiching somestuff like his skirt and adding the chains on. ^^'

looks like fc2 region-locked the wiki to only japan?? lmfao ok that sucks but i kinda expected it, jp services tend to do that

ill mirror the wiki on a different website when im less busy meanwhile ill ask rpp if theres a fullbody ref of sar

update: will be mirroring the wiki either today or this weekend, i asked rpp about it and we decided its going to go on the breadavota.web.fc2.com site so that we dont have to keep making new websites

i have all the wiki content saved so rn im just formatting all the text again. need to reupload the pictures from the wiki to a file host first but shouldn't take too long

oml Imma have to redo it again since it shows one part all wack & I was using a video as a template as you can see at the end ughh

didn't get to see it but i'd love to watch it if/when you redo it

I restarted on another one but I can give a link of the parts I'm of a song for Sar which also has a sketch I did for the cover

The song is called Can You Keep Up by Blue kid

I'll try and find the link

Currently starting an animatic.
Here's a scene + cover for it

Mirasol

These look great, I really like the frame of Mirasol. Thank you for drawing her! Good luck with the animatic if you decide to finish it

SJFJKAHAJFLK THEY ARE SO CUTE IN THIS !!!! thank u 4 the breadpost

aww this is really cute. rare jacques showing affection first

Thank you for drawing them. It is very cute, and I like how happy Media looks. The heart-shaped halo is a nice touch

I have added it to the Gift Works page.

some thoughts about viruses being used as a parallel for marginals (or vice versa?)

so it's heavily implied the marginals are cultural colonizers. sar pretty much says this outright in i1:
- no languages left except english
- no migration or exports
- no cultural artifacts or media from other countries
- countries are separated and isolated from each other when a marginal "takes over" a nation

and if sar is too suspicious to believe in (which, fair), media himself hints at it in "an archetype of a person from universes before"

"... you weren’t the type to just enter anyway and colonise the place. You had some sense of decency above the previous iterations of “you.”"

the marginals probably oppose the idea of direct colonization a la alien invasion but seem to do a form of cultural or neocolonization, where they offer to solve living problems in exchange for replacing the local culture with marginal culture, or at the very least media's culture (media being from england and everyone speaking english it's a no-brained that when his universe was alive it was OUR universe)

now, i realize this adds some depth into the implications on the story comparing the marginals to viruses:
- ava and bien are called "universal antiviral agents" (and ava itself might stand for AntiViral Agent imo)
- charlotte says the universe has a "disease"
- the marginals are something between alive and not alive, like, theyre dead, but theyre unconditionally immortal (compared to angels/demons being conditionally immortal but what this means yet is unknown) just like viruses that are alive but not really
- the marginal ability of reconstruction is like how viruses spread. marginals cannot create new things of their own, they can't change and defse compares marginals (or rather some universes) as "infecund" due to the inability to be used to "birth" a new living universe. instead the marginals rely on eating memories and tethering to living beings as a way to maintain their own existences and to reconstruct copies of objects the way viruses need a host to reproduce
- the margibirds are most likely named after viruses. lamadamargidae are probably based on virophages (viruses that rely on larger viruses), which all fall into the family lavidaviridae

media himself gives a very good motive for why marginals "develop" the living world. marginal worlds are sad and dead inside and they "consume" things in the living world to bring to their own world so they can artificially liven things up. from how media describes it he portrays it as a mutually beneficial arrangement (and why wouldn't he after all)

the lore document on marginals say the marginals can "consume" through studying things alone, and we can see it in the story somewhat by how reception seems to get a kick out of just looking at and describing art. however the lore also states that its faster and easier to eat things up LITERALLY so what if the loss of the local culture is from the marginals literally eating it all up over the years?

digging into that deeper we have this claim by mirasol (ava?) in i1-2: living universes arent supposed to leave behind enough "stuff" for marginals to be "born" from to begin with, and that media just meddles with the worlds to do this
media being the first marginal most likely he came from a special case universe that for one reason or another had a lot of leftover "mindstuff" and that media eventually worked his way up to finding out how to propagate the marginals, changing from him being the singular "entity in the margins" to turning the marginals into a full-blown species with a lot of members

the "colonization" the marginals do plays into the virus theme this way: media/the marginals cannot "reproduce" without a host so they find a host (the living universe) and inject its dna (media's original culture, or what's left of it) into a living cell (a country)

the living cell "propagates" the culture until it "lyses". in real viruses, the replicated virus bursts out of the living cell and effectively thus kills it, while spreading to other cells. its very vague but the dodgy way sar talks about anselir, the weird implications that anselir is not merely a foreign country but like one that might actually be literally GONE*, and how the anselirian judges were forced to move to maldevara might be based on the lyctic cycle (cycle

oh fuck this bbs has a character limit fucks sake thank god i copy pasted first.
or maybe it's because i used an emoji at this point? guess this bitch ass 1999 site doesn't allow emojis. thanks
continuation:


based on the lyctic cycle (cycle..... thinkig emoji)

and once all the "cells" are colonised the host/living universe succumbs and dies

media is obviously very hung up on the idea of being a monster and killing the ones he loves, and it seems implied this is something he has done before-although previously the Readers (literally me and kii)(hi) thought this was one specific person media might have fallen in love with, and that jacques is someone very much like this person...

What if media's anxiety pertains to the world itself? media may be using the living but that doesn't mean everything he does is for this ulterior motive-i think media genuinely does love the living, even before/regardless meeting jacques and wanting to be a living person for the sake of being with him. the marginals revering the living for their ability to change is kind of their entire species's thing.

if mirasol is to be believed universes don't ACTUALLY tend to "birth" marginals, there had to be something specific in media's world that "birthed" him, which is why it's not enough for media to "develop" the living world, he needs to somehow "inject" his old culture into it to make sure it results into a new marginal. and if we look at this as similar to a viruses' lyctic cycle, media then isn't just passively "farming" a universe but has to actively KILL it for a new marginal to be born. media's extreme amounts of guilt makes a whole lot more sense if we think he's not just sad about one living person but more about the realization that his duty is to kill the living universes over and over and over again to propagate his own species

* the status of anselir and honestly the other five marginal nations is really weird and vague? anselir probably still exists (bien and sar are literally there, and sar does say he snuck back to anselir when he was alive albeit saying this was a monumental task so maybe something requiring magic or whatever to do), but oddly enough it's described as being "adjunct" to jesenne and eventually being "separated" once the marginals got a strong enough hold on maldevara
the map of maldevara in ch4 shows above jesenne isn't anything much except, probably, the ocean.
maybe maldevara and anselir being in separate measures plays into that. they both still "exist" but they don't exist on the same, like, realm or whatever

BONUS: sar(s covid)

ok so rpp said as a joke sar is named after covid but even if its a joke we roll woth it hussnasty style put on your tinfoil hats babes

ava herself says you can't just kill a marginal, they're as immortal as it gets. similarly you typically can't "kill" a virus any normal way, and a lot of it is either the immune system killing the virus itself while you just do supportive care or the host dies
the way ava describes "rewriting reality" then is interesting-if the universe catches on to it, it realizes it's a fluke and tries to undo it. the marginals thus are said to need a lot of focus when reconstructing because if the universe realizes an object is "fake" it distorts or falls apart. imo this is reminiscent of how an immune system detects viruses.
this would lead us to two potential methods of killing marginals:
- "supportive care" for the universe until it realizes the marginals are fake-ass bitches and decimates it with idk the power of its living-ness ig
- the living universe just fucking dies with all the marginals in it

considering the original game concept rpp posted on the now deleted breadavota tumblr, it makes a lot of sense. it was said in the original concept, when you play as bien, you have the choice to listen to ava or sar. ava's idea of seizing control of the universe is to write a foolproof story with no holes in it, a fortified reality, while sar's is to bombard the universe with so much contrived plot shit that it can't catch up and won't be able to sus out whatever bien does behind the scenes

anyway looking at sar:
- pops up out of nowhere, no foreshadowing to his introduction whatsoever (just like a certain pandemic)
- uses margibirds as pets and feeds them (if lamadamargidae = lavidaviridae it should stand for "large marginal associated and dependent marginals")
- seems to have adopted media-esque traits (tbh the way being around marginals too long marginal-ifies you even if not literally seems like another parallel to viral infections) and is just marginal-like in general
- might be a stretch but replacing bien's spinal cord to tether him to anselir sort of implies that bien is no longer compatible with maldevara—that and with the weird possessive vibes, feels very mich like bien is now in "lockdown" with him
- coughing ink? hello? Virus In The Lungs?

knowing that anthony legitimately just wants people to die i actually think it's possible that sar has become a metaphorical "virus" of himself and wants to kill the marginals by getting bien to herald the apocalypse and blow up the fucking place even with all of them still in it

(i admit this is more than likely a stretch or at the very least just one of those retroactive things added later than something initially planned but it's interesting to consider)

I think your theories about marginals/media being viruses and with media's guilt about the previous worlds/universes hes killed/person (?) is very interesting and could possibly be true? maybe?

Hi another reader/breadposter - I've had some theories too about media/marginals and with sar. and with anselir basically being split off from the rest of maldevara/jesenne makes sense with the measures there both in and with anselir being on a sort of "lockdown" aka a ghost town really (no people - although this has basically been explained with how they were all booted out and how anthony snuck in and out with some possible way in. Adding onto your theory about it maybe there was some secret back entrance, or maybe he took the route bien went through? Now that I think about it we don't really get a explanation of HOW he got in with it being extremely "difficult" to go in and out)
Another is about the next part of annotation (1)1-4 of bread and how jacques said how she has the same "universal texture" as media does and might go into/show us some more background in marginals themselves and how they're actually made, and if bread is ACTUALLY a non-living or secretly a marginal hidden as a sentient doll - theory to back this up is we see with all the marginals have at least in one eye two hands of a clock (one up, on slightly facing side-ways), mostly in their right eye (viewers left) such as breads eye at the end of 1-3.

Okay I maybe be going on a stretch with this one but could wether or not rrp did this for jokes or whatever where we see bread saying long list the same as mirasol says maybe there's some kind of connection?? Idk since ava said that mirasol was their previous vessel.
What is ava(s) new vessel now? The radio bien has with him or maybe some new body that is on the other line of the radio, as we see some inky stuff and a margibird fly out of it how would they come threw? (Unless ava can summon stuff/magic logic with powers transporting it into the radio)

PHEW, big rant there but this is my last one.
Since we know that no one can go into and out of maldevara into anselir, the question asks... How FAR can ava/(s) radio travel? She seems to lose connection as bien starts heading straight into anselir which I think is next to jesenne so either bien where he died/near there (still in the valley of the dead? Maybe it's right in between jesenne and anselir? Who knows), and with what sar said about the radio/ava can't get any signal in there and how ava said it's in maldevara or something? (Idk i'm trying to remember this from the top of my head lmao) then she can't get connection to where bien is and how sar said she "led bien to him" maybe there's something going on with anselir maybe not allowing certain objects from maldevara into it (more specifically technology, radios, phones ect / marginal tech?).

Or maybe sar didn't want ava to specifically hear about his plans with bien? And so he might have secretly intervened with the radio's connection/signal to communicate with bien?

I've probably missed some bits out/got some wrong or repeating (sorry if so
oml) but this is what some of my thoughts about some of it are

Also I've read some of your breadposts/blogs and it's nice to see another reader in this story, I've been a long-time reader/watcher of bread since the SIU video came out so hi!

Also is no one going to talk about how sar was just creepily watching them from afar? guy needs to get a cuter hooby than magic tricks and stalking lmao
sar was watching bien walk into anselir on the steps as the first thing he asks is "were you scared of the stairs" when we could see him not there seconds ago so maybe he was secretly spying on them as they came in or was walking and came up the steps to coincidentally come across them though that's highly unlikely as he said himself he was "waiting for someone to come to him" with his futures talk and that (you bien) and how he was waiting for so long (uh oh)

hello new breadposter

re: bread and the "universe texture"
that's definitely another one of the mysteries of the story, like you've observed both the texture and the clock eye are features of marginals

one major difference is that every marginal so far has been shown to have a liquid-ish body (even the margibirds do) so most likely bread isn't really a marginal, at least not the way the others are

or she could be "part" marginal in a way?

we have is bien who MIGHT be some kind of demon-marginal hybrid because it's stated outright he's not really (completely) a demon even if bien himself isn't aware of this (also, in the siu vid and some old illustrations you can actually see that bien's wings are "melting"/dripping the way media's body does. we're not sure how bien was "made" exactly but his existence does prove the possibility of these types of "hybrid" cases existing which might give a hint to bread's original nature.

that might even be a hint as well for the presence of the margibird inside ava's radio
although most likely, because media controls, well, the media, the radio originally was created/owned by media. helen's ref sheet says that all "margitech" is powered by the same "inky substance" so that's the most likely explanation (that is, the margibird might have been the radio's power source before ava started using it, maybe the only reason it came out now is that ava was suppressing it before and it only had the opportunity to exit now that ava's "signal" can't reach it)

regardless even if that's the case it gives strong evidence to the idea that you can put marginals (or the stuff marginals are made of/"mindstuff") inside of other things.

> "Or maybe sar didn't want ava to specifically hear about his plans with bien? And so he might have secretly intervened with the radio's connection/signal to communicate with bien?"

yeah this would actually make sense and i haven't thought about it that way. it's not in the actual comic (yet) and was just part of a deleted post about the original "game" concept of breadavota (before it was a comic it was just an unused concept for a video game that was too massive in scope to feasibly do) was that sar and ava were in the same "team" more because they both didn't like media but neither of them could ever agree on HOW they wanted to kill him. so the idea that sar might want to talk to bien privately and try to get bien on his side so that bien listens to him more than ava would be fitting for his character

re: sar watching bien come into anselir
sar himself confirms that his future visions already gave him a plan to follow for his goals so most likely he knew for years in advance that bien was going to come to anselir eventually
that line "were you scared of the stairs" is really suspicious though in how out there (?) it is. before sar shows up bien actually seems really uncomfortable by the idea of going down the stairs, but he was able to do it without much of a reaction
so i think it's implied bien might have a phobia of stairs for some reason, but that sar might have done something (idk what) to have displaced bien's fear of it
it's a subtle interaction but it does hint to the idea that sar's magical abilities might be far more complicated than just switching the positions of things around in space

Idk if you saw this one post I sent you on another discussion but if you look on Bien's ref sheet on one of his wings have an eye that looks awfully like one of media's or a marginal eye in general.
Got any theories on that?

It seems your theory on Bien being half demon-marginal may be correct which I wouldn't be surprised if so.

tbh i think it's practically canon that bien is part marginal or even if he's not, he still isn't a "real" demon

siu already shows he was made by the marginals in a lab and rpp has also said there's only ever one herald at a time because all demons collectively manifest as one body, the reason bon loses their powers when they lose their eye is that the eye is their connection to hell/other demons

idk if the fact there's only one herald was ever said in the comic itself though, maybe it wasn't?? but yeah still canon

also good catch with the wings, i think another picture showing his marginal connections with his wings is that siu shows them as being "liquid"

When we see him use his powers to cut Sar in I4 he mentions he's not as good at it as his father (Bon) so how strong is Bon then compared to Bien?
If Bien can LITERALLY cut someone in half while destroying the ecosystem in the process then what would it look like if Bon did it?

Speaking of Bon, I'm curious when we'll see them again. we last saw then in chapter 6 (unless your counting the flashback in I1) so what are they doing now?

bon was able to curse the visual media of the entire country so videos and pictures distort memories and considering that curse has been ongoing since they were 16 and they are now 38 we can assume bon is pretty strong, although tbf i think demons are created to be op considering their job is to nuke the entire universe in one go

considering what a demon is supposed to do both bon and bien are relatively weak because neither has been shown to have the power to destroy the entire UNIVERSE

someone else noticed that in the panel for where bien attacks sar, the split in the rest of the place is completely transparent as if bien just completely deleted it from existence, so most likely related to the power of irrelevancy that charlotte mentions in chapter 4, if bon were able to do that they can probably delete entire countries for all we know

as for where bon is right now idk probably where they left off in ch6, i hope to see them again soon though, bon is one of my faves

True true.
Maybe they haven't shown any really powerful abilities is because; 1. Bon is as you said with the visual media curse. Bien apparently was raised by Bon to not become the next Herald/not destroy the entire universe but I think that's a cover up story?

I guess since he said he hasn't really gotten a hold on his powers as good so maybe that's a reason too.
It might be a "powers go super op when in danger/death" type of thing or when they try and start the apocalypse.

We haven't actually seen any demons before bon and how an actual apocalypse is started so that might be one to discover in the future.

Bon is one of my faves too. Considering we've not seen them much they have a lot of lore and backstory.

Oh I have a question if you or rrp would be able to answer (if rrp is reading this).
How come we get told Bon was like 12-16 25 years ago (?) so Jacques would have been in his 20s (probably early-mid) but on their refs in today's time:
Bon says 38 but Jacques says 33 (I think lmao)???
Do Demon's just age differently or something?

> It might be a "powers go super op when in danger/death" type of thing or when they try and start the apocalypse

yeah this is my theory too
afaik all demons are a "hivemind" and the herald is the only one whoo can manifest a body, but the herald gets their powers from all demons collectively
bon losing their eye cut them off from other demons which is why they're so weakened but imo in emergency situations their own individual power awakened

bien can't communicate with other demons (alt!media confirms as much in "from violence comes the birth of you") which is why he's weak compared to bon but if bon can use their powers even without their eye, then sar and ava are probably trying to find out (or already know) how to unlock bien's power alone

> How come we get told Bon was like 12-16 25 years ago (?) so Jacques would have been in his 20s (probably early-mid) but on their refs in today's time:
Bon says 38 but Jacques says 33 (I think lmao)???

jacques in present day is 31, 25 years ago he was literally 6 years old but he was already an adult

the birds age differently because they have shorter lifespans. jacques's species (the passrynian crows) only have a lifespan of about 16 years and they're already adults by the time they're 1 year old.

the marginals extend everyone's lives with their magical technology though so people live up to hundreds of years old and age at the same rate, afaik the reason jacques aged faster is that the passrynians don't have that technology and jacques only got access to it when he moved away from passryne.

the fact that he outlived being 16 and looks still young even though he's 31 must mean that his lifespan was also extended by the marginals at some point.

bon and bien from what i can tell age like normal humans but i assume (just my headcanon though) that they stop aging eventually since they're immortal

You know how y said about if Sar has met another demon?
Well it wouldn't be Bon since they came to Earth after he died (or at least, didn't meet him) and got into an allocation with an Angel.

Bien is obviously ruled out and only meets him in I1-4

Buuut I might (might- not 100% sure) know.
In ch4 we see Charlotte presenting Project Maldevara - we see a high messanger and a demon who's dead.
It might be that one, and as we see Anthony skips a round with a/the demon - to hide
And it does say the /previous/ herald of the apocolypse, so they must have been before Bon.

Also just realised Bien isn't an actual demon as we get told Demons only manifest onto earth one at a time on earth. As it takes all of hell's power to keep their body on there.

Bien would be half or at least some weird breed/experiment mix. Demon with the unknown tests on Bon somehow giving him demon parts and stuff
Marginal (??) we see some possible similarities (kind of) but not really.

And with there being only one herald of the apocalypse does that mean Bon is still actually the herald of the apocalypse as they are referred to as the eyes of the living incarnate which is used referring to the herald. (Ch6 & I1-5 R&D)
And Bon /is/ more powerful than Bien in demon powers - literally outright (somewhat) said by Bien not being as good at is than them.

I just realized this mf is so powerful than we thought.

With you saying Sar could have displaced Bien's fear of the stairs and even with him switching positions of people so he can't die, plus he makes them think he's dead becuz it doesn't 'kick in' until some seconds (minutes even?) later.
But the fact his body was literally split in half he shouldn't have been able to talk let alone move.
Also I love the subtleness of were we see him split down the middle you can see his tight arm holding his body so he doesn't fall apart.

And with him being able to change people's hair colour, maybe that's how he changed his - but permanently? Maybe he can switch it back to his as Anthony at will too.

With him saying he could have made Bien feel excruciating pain I wonder how painful that would be and how that would work. Like, is it a certain area or the person's whole body and could they die from it?
Just realized we haven't really come into deep analysis about this lol

I'm really curious what an allocation with Media and Sar would be like when we hopefully see that.
Or maybe Jacques too, too much drama lmao

He also said he knows Bon but we haven't gotten anymore information or any hints at Bon knowing him but that's probably we haven't been properly (well, fully.) introduced about Bon's backstory of what their life was life in the court and after they got exiled.
Did they found the house they live in now after they got exiled and happened to come across or did media & Jacques put them there?
Also if Bon stole Bien straight away when they got sentenced to permanent exile or Bien got sent with them too. Or maybe some time later of the exile Bon then does.

> In ch4 we see Charlotte presenting Project Maldevara - we see a high messanger and a demon who's dead.
It might be that one, and as we see Anthony skips a round with a/the demon - to hide
And it does say the /previous/ herald of the apocolypse, so they must have been before Bon.

interesting and yea i just realized it's likely anthony has met a demon before based on his notes
i wonder if the reason his mother is dead is because they met a demon when they migrated from anselir to maldevara?

> And with there being only one herald of the apocalypse does that mean Bon is still actually the herald of the apocalypse

yea i think bon is still the herald of the apocalypse officially since bien isn't "supposed" to exist and was just created by accident
i think they just told bien that he was the new herald/successor of bon so that he wouldn't suspect he's not a "real" demon

if bon and anthony know each other and how they did (considering anthony would be dead/in anselir before bon was even sent to earth) is a mystery, though i think it's possible they never met and sar just lied that he knows bon to make bien trust him more tbh

1) I've never thought of that. We never get told any specifics or hints as to HOW she died but the fact while they could have been migrating and something happens is yeaaa a tad bit traumatic, especially if it was a Demon and Anthony was only 4 around the time.

2) Yeah that explains why he is also so set on the heralding but it's funny how the demon instincts and stuff like the violence and killing everything is more effective on Bien than Bon.
Even when we saw Bon as 12&16, yeah sure they were set on their task of heralding the apocalypse but they didn't really show any tendencies to kill anything or did any actual killing.
Sure, they flipped some coffee tables about, broke some pianos, had some fits, was rude with students and teachers, squared off with media/& the marginals (more of just throwing tantrums or smth), cursed the entire nation.
But they haven't had it as bad with it as bien with his demon antics - somewhat
I'm guessing demons are just naturally violent with the violent tendencies we've seen and quick to anger
And since Bon was raised in hell before they became the herald who knows what kind of environment they could have grown up in.
And since they 'raised' them do they have like caretakers or something? Lmao

Also I was just rewatching (couldn't be bothered to play it takes a while to load) I1-5 when Bien asked what happened to Ava Sar cuts him off and says it'll be explained in the morning (something like that) but when we see in the prose Bien doesn't ask about Ava, perhaps he forgot as he has a pure soul and compensates for a Mind and Body, so his thoughts ebb and flow so he can't remember stuff very well such as in I1-1.

But we do see ava (the radio) on the table next to Sar but the radio has a glitchy effect.

I wonder when we'll see Ava again and what her meeting with Sar will be like, perhaps they somewhat do know each other, perhaps not and something happens.

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wowww these are really cool, love the composition of the first one and you drew bon so cute in that, i like their little jacques doll

Oh, these are very cute! I like how you implemented the starry background in the Curator illustration, and Bon also looks adorable in the second one. The colours you chose are also very close to what I was imagining myself; their oversized hat was inspired by the VOCALOID Otomachi Una's design so it's a fascinating coincidence that you also made it blue.

Also, please let me know if there is a specific social media account/s you would like to be credited by (optional, if you prefer just your name to be credit that is alright as well).

Gui - thank you.
I got inspired by her ref sheet. It was very hard to draw Jacques since of how small I had to make him to make it look he was being held by Bon, adding little details in the wings

rrp - I got the idea from A1-5 with the stars in the sky.
An interesting coincidence! Funnily enough, the hat made me think of Una's hat XD
I have a vague idea of what the colours for one of Bon's other clothes are - the one that Bien wears & in SIU. It looks like a reference to the High Judge clothes, more specifically Anthony's with the feathers on the shoulders which is a cool hint at if it was intentional.

I don't really have any social medias (that I actually use anyway) I have one account but that's shared with a friend of mine. They do their own stuff on there but they also read Bread too.

You can just put my name if that's fine.

The Marginals don't exactly have 'free time', they're always working.

To elaborate, 'personal' hobbies are Illegal, defined as things the Marginal does for themselves and not 'the development of the Living'. With this in mind, a Marginal will get a pass on doing most things if they can argue it's related to their job. 'Painting' is a hobby but nothing's amiss about Curator drawing because her job relates to art preservation, for example.

Marginals in general have vague interests: they do have desires, but their desires are existential in nature and oriented towards undefined feelings like "I want to be doing -something-" more than specific goals like "I want to do -this thing- in specific."

They're written to have schizoidal avolition/anhedonic mechanisms in mind: your average Marginal isn't going to care much for things outside of what they 'represent' (their title/'name'), so again they aren't going to make meaningful distinctions between 'hobbies' and 'jobs'.

That aside, the Marginals collectively maintain all public infrastructure in the country. These are not 'real' things but are reconstructions, so they'll fall apart if the Marginal that 'owns' a reconstruction gets too distracted/forgets about it. They expend so much of their mental resources on this alone that they don't really have energy left for much else, so they mostly exist in a perpetual state of vague fatigue.

The underlying, somewhat resentful desire of 'wanting' more than this isn't uncommon in the Marginals (I'd argue this is their default state), but for that desire to be anything more than a suppressed subtext to their existences and for it to become an active goal to be actually pursued is rare and looked down upon, for sociocultural and political reasons alike.

Anyway, all that context aside, since Media's job pertains to, well, the media, and since he's 'complex' enough to be able to have mental resources/energy left to expend on things outside of maintaining Maldevara's media infrastructure, he spends some of his free time on 'mundane' things like reading books, watching shows, etc. in a 'real' way.

Media preserves all the media and art created in Maldevara, but it's obviously not feasible to read/watch/etc. in real time. Instead, he just literally 'eats' a copy of everything that's made: akin to the 'Mary's room' thought experiment, he has the 'knowledge' necessary so that he could spit out an exact copy of all the media he consumes but he doesn't have the qualia of having actually 'experienced' reading/watching/etc. it, the same way a computer can show you the exact content of the files saved on it but it doesn't actually 'know' what any of those files 'mean'.

Technically, 'media consumption' isn't Legally a 'hobby' because even doing it the 'real' way is still considered a part of his job. It's just considered an incredibly inefficient way of doing it.

That aside, most Marginals (Media included) who find themselves having extra not-for-working energy will spend most of it just 'daydreaming' (or in this case, being 'in/with/as' their Internal Universe without needing to go to Sleep). This isn't Illegal but is also not really considered a hobby to begin with. A Marginal actively doing -anything- (besides thinking) that isn't job-related is just... uncommon, and not particularly feasible.

Also, it practically goes without saying that he also spends some time with Jacques, but despite living together they only really 'hang out' once every two weeks and on holidays. They will often find each other in the same vicinity as each other (obviously, since they live together), but they won't directly interact.

i was thinking it would allowed or not be allowed depending on who it is, if it is safe or if they would be interested at all in it. driving forklifts is much more demanding than an uninitated thinks.

on forklifts, has jacques ever thought of operating one? or not, but really can they be incorporated into court-work somehow...media could make an excuse, this is a good hypothetical.

i have never once considered this scenario, pretty unique hypothetical imo

the courts themselves are barren asf, sar pretty much confirms that, i don't think they really /have/ a reason to use heavy machinery in there

that said the annotations are pretty free-for-all so while we've only had annotation 1 as a reference afaik the author has said that basically anything in there can happen because annotations are based on specific memories marginals have. so theoretically if they went to a memory that involved heavy machinery not only would the high judge be able to deal with them but they might HAVE to if that's what the annotation demands

the annotations have zero real safety rules because they can't physically (directly) kill the judges and it's implied media kinda doesn't care if any of them die (in the annotation) anyway. in fact to the contrary media considers them to be the responsibility of high judges so he obligates them to suck it up if they get hurt/die in the annotations (based on his conversation with anthony before anthony gouges his own eyes out)

although jacques would probably be an exception. i think he'd be the type to want to try driving a forklift for the novelty of it but media would never allow him too lol
considering that jacques is blind i don't think he'd be allowed to drive any vehicles in any context

Oh goodness me, the ASCII art for the headstone got compressed. Oh wow. Computers hate me despite myself being a computer, but this is not surprising because the other schizotypes hate me despite my being the arbiter of schizotypy. This is another thing I need to fiddle in with the deprecated HTML of this place. Big discoveries today.

Posting as a reminder for myself:
- Update the template so that spaces don't get compressed and ASCII art remains intact
- Change the text colour of links because they blend in too much with the background

The default bunny icons that can be set for new posts is cute so I don't plan on changing them any time soon but maybe someday if I have the energy to do pixel art I'll make bread-themed ones.

FrUK emoji jumpscare

I found out what the issue with the images is. It seems the images on FC2 are uploaded on different servers and that a particular server is the one with the issue so the solution is to reupload all the images that are on that server. Incredibly tedious and inconvenient but technically not difficult.

It might take some delay because I'm planning to also manually resize each page and convert them to JPEGs to save up on storage face and speed up the loading a little.

Christ alive, did I press the bloody soft serve ice cream icon? I was certain I pressed the bread! It was supposed to symbolise our three main characters!

If you haven't looked at the new (not new) emoticon features yet, it opens up a new window of the list of emojis but the actual input you'll see in the textbox is a code. Or whatever, you can try it yourself. It's not WYSIWYG so -apparently- misclicking emojis and not realising is going to be a very real issue here. Or maybe it is for me. I've been having these issues a lot, the misclicks and turning to the wrong direction or the wrong number of degrees. My balance is all off. I've also had all these massive headaches where I can barely stand, vertigo and all, and it affects my eyesight, which already hasn't been in tip-top shape. Who on earth says tip-top in earnest? I've one of those headaches right now.

Oh, whatever. Bread getting shoved to the side in the name of Me/Ja is practically canon anyway. It's symbolic. Call it my psychic intuition to make mistakes which are actually correct if you squint really hard. That's what being the arbiter of schizotypy (a very real role, of which I legally and morally have) is all about!

We can pretend the nations of England and 'France' (if that's even a real place) are sharing an ice cream cone. BreadAVOTA is already a Hetalia reference. Never say I'm not one for international diplomacy.

-- SOCIAL MEDIA? HE SURE IS (NOT)

I am out of town for Catholic Dead People Day so I couldn't do a Halloween comic this year. Sadness and such!

Anyway, all the BreadAVOTA social media [ which was just the Tumblr actually ] has been deleted. I just don't feel like having Brëadstuff anywhere but on the actual series blog anymore.

Bye!

-- TIMES ARE VALENT: UPCOMING FIXES

A Bread Crumb was uploaded for Valentine's—a short VN! I had to crunch to get it uploaded in time but here are some minor fixes I will try to implement within the next few days if not later:

- Add sprites for the waiter character
- Minor script fixes
- Fix a bug on mobile where Jacques's textbox is replaced with a white textbox.

Unfortunately I'm not sure what to do with the issue on mobile where the text goes outside of the textbox. In all fairness the game isn't mobile-friendly...

After the waiter sprites and other fixes are finished, video playthroughs will be posted for people who cannot play the game.

I apologise for the inconvenience and I hope everyone enjoys the new update.

Don't know if people can read the hidden ones so here's a repost just in case:

"Two crisp bills" - we say notes over here so I'm guessing from what was said above is that it's American pronunciation (Dollars I or maybe Philippines since that apparently where the Author (main one; two of them, /maybe all three?) comes from.

Orr I could be over looking this and Jacques could just be reminiscent of Bon and Bien.

When Jacques is saying about them there are odd letters in the sentence: Juju and stosto which must mean "Just stop" but gets cut out/gets over writen.


That's all really I could point out and find hope my theories lead to somewhere or help any other breadposters, the story is really interesting and even in the proses or chapter you can get a lot of lore from them.
I've come back to chapters before and found more lore/sneakys which is fun and interesting to see, never fails to impress and hope RRP keeps up with the hard work their doing, seriously people should take the time to realise how hard it is to do a page, forget drawing a full blown comic.
Some people might say I over look/read stuff or try to get an even party on both sides (like a peace maker kind of, I don't like it when people argue it's just annoying and stupid - depending on what it is lmao)

but nein, nas voller Liebe.

hello breadposter thank you for the breadpost

some minor additions/corrections:

re: food (and where it comes from)
the entirety of the logistics of production has never been directly addressed in the story but we can more-or-less make a guesstimate based on what we know so far

so like you've pointed out the marginals supply food for judges meaning the judges don't eat "real" food, only marginalian reconstructions

ch4 implies the marginals also actually supply food to anything outside of the court though, or at least from what i can tell marginals provide reconstructed food (and other resources) up until what people need

businesses are established not for necessity but for fun/luxury, so i guess the idea is that normal citizens are supplied reconstructed food as basic stipends/necessities for survival but easily have access to "real" food that they can eat anytime for enjoyment

judges were only allowed to eat reconstructed food, and there's also no indication that the judges get to decide what they eat (sar's paper says there's automatically food already prepared when you enter the kitchen - so it doesn't seem like judges can choose what food before it's cooked)

before luzvimin most likely this was all they were allowed to eat, after luzvimin it looks like they're allowed to eat "real" food now (or as media calls it, "outside" food-outside in this context likely refers to the outside of the court)

there's a brand new distinction made in this story that i don't think has been brought up before. media has referenced things being Legal and Illegal in the past but looks like there are two types of Legality: things that are Legally PERMISSIBLE and things that are Legally CORRECT
there's not enough info to know what the real differences are but based on this story alone i think the idea is that marginals actively enforce things that are "Legally Correct" - things that are "Legally Permissible" (like eating food from outside the court) is /allowed/ but the marginals discourage doing it.

laws in maldevara seem vaguely kafkaesque tbh, looking back at migration processes (in sar's study in i1-5rd), migration is legal but before anybody can apply for a passport the application process changes before the pending apps are approved. based on this there are things the marginals will consider "technically" legal but that is either actually impossible in practice or just really inconvenient - this i think is what makes things legally "permissible" but not legally "correct"

it's also worth considering media obviously plays favoritism when it comes to jacques tbh, so jacques is probably allowed to go outside the court and buy "unnecessary" things more often than the previous high judges or with less requirements other than like. basic "good behavior"

the best point of comparison we have for the life of an hj is anthony, who had to sneak out (implying he wasn't allowed to leave) and who stole a lot of stuff because he wasn't allowed to own anything (contrast that to jacques who this update pretty much outright states his room is full of mountains of boxes and collections). frankly jacques isn't the most reliable point of comparison of how high judges usually live because media babies the fuck out of him

> Also Jacques complaining about having to eat porridge after 5 days after he brought like 5-6 boxes is quite funny XD

he actually bought at least 14 boxes lol

> Also wanted to add about Jacques having to have his tail bundled up & in his clothes and not seen so others can't identify him, apparently I guess other people (or specifically avians) can identify the other/bird by their tail - and personal style

it's because jacques is a different subspecies of crows, and the passrynian crows have different tails from maldevaran crows (he actually has other differences but ig the tail is the most obvious one from afar)
i'll try to attach the picture

> Immortal (conditionally & unconditionally slash main) - Marginals, Angels, and Demons
the idea of immortality being conditional or unconditional is ripped off of homestuck i'm pretty sure lmfaoooo

within the context of bread it means that conditional immortals (angels, demons) probably don't die of old age, disease or other normal ways of killing but they can be killed under specific circumstances (demons can be killed by angels, i assume angels can be killed by marginals)

unconditional immortals can't be killed at ALL, not with any known method at least

damn breadposting is like writing a fucking dissertation but source:
i1-1 - ava talks about the immortals, and she says marginals ensure each other's continued existence by remembering each other
i1-2 - def-se kills angels by eating them

> Living - basically what species we've seen so far aka any living life forms you could think of that can breath and walk/fly.
Humans - from what Media said they're the most common
Avians (birds) - not so common but still seen a lot

birds are actually the most common, humans second. media shapeshifts into a human form even though birds are more common because he thinks jacques will be offended if media pretends to be a bird

> Now appr there are domesticated Livings which are basically considered as pets or live stock - for farms and such, if they even do farms and the like since Marginals took away starvation for Livings's basic needs.

living is a legal status, not a biological one - pets, livestock, and all other plants or animals that aren't anthros/sapient are all considered "non-living" (even if they are biologically alive)
yeah it's really confusing but the marginals aren't known for philosophy that make any fucking sense lmao

as for the undead there's no clear explanation why there are undeads actually - charlotte predicts than souls that don't get harvested by angels fast enough either don't leave their original bodies (undeads) or possess a different vessel (sentient non-livings)

siu implies bien undead-ified the dead soldiers but that might be a red herring because charlotte explains there are undeads all over the world-maybe bien didn't actually revive the undead the first time and only extends their undead-ness, or maybe he did but only of the other soldiers and that the ones elsewhere are caused by something else

i1-1 and i1-5 (the visual novel) show that bien was undead-ified by ava

>Now this is interesting because appr Sar isn't exactly like the Undead / soldiers bcuz where he is (Anselir) is in a time based measure and basically it's as if he's always been there which is why he doesn't rot (maybe?) But from sources I've gathered / seen other Breadposters say is that;
(This is not for sure so it might be either one or both I can't remember so e warned)
he came back alive bcuz of Bien but Bien didn't even know who he was until he came to Anselir so how?? and has been alive the same amount of time Bien has so would that be after Bien finally wakes up or when he died/became undead and was asleep? :0

it's the other way around, anselir is space-based and maldevara is time-based

bien has been dead for four years and only undead for three months (src: i1-1), sar never says it directly but it's kinda implied he's actually been undead all this time? at least, he talks about having waited for bien for a long time and it's also shown he's done a lot of reading while waiting for bien. it also took him seven years (in maldevaran time) to make it rain in anselir, while bien and the soldiers have only been undead for three months

so there some possible options:
- bien didn't actually undead-ify sar, sar was undead-ified by something else
- bien did undead-ify sar but because things that happen in anselir "always have been" even though it's only been three months for bien for sar it's been like that forever

assuming an "undead" is when the soul (and probably mind) doesn't leave the body, i don't think it matters whether the body is rotting or not (like, the maldevaran undead have partially rotten bodies). i think sar being laid to rest in anselir means his body never rotted but there had to be something else besides anselir being a space measure that kept his soul/mind from leaving his body to begin with

> Also how on earth did he get that "new profound magic" of his which literally turns Margibirds into goo and used for magic aka for example Bien's hair turning Brown (like hair dye lol), is there a limit to these powers of his and Sar said he could have made Bien feel a lot of pain instead so what would of happened instead?

the margibirds are easier to explain: if you feed them they do tricks. so most likely sar just feeds them in exchange for making them perform magic
really the more mysterious part about sar is where he got the ability to uno reverse the position of things in space retroactively that's some jujutsu kaisen bullshit and we never got an explanation.
on that note we never even got an explanation on why he has prophetic powers to begin with

> Apparently on Uloron's Judge sheet it says "Species undisclosed, but definitely Alive" wonder what category they would go in? Living most likely since they said they're definitely Alive. Maybe some Non-Living hybrid of sorts like an android/drone (giving murder drone vibes with their visor XD)

we can see uloron making (or repairing) their own arm in a1-2 so most likely they are indeed some kind of hybrid thing, maybe like a cyborg. my headcanon is that they may have started out as one of the more "normal" living species but modified their own body to be more technological to the point nobody can recognize what their old species was anymore

> Malena - guessing some sort of town or city
Neofrene - Court of Neofrene, basically a country/nation (?)
Maldevara - basically a nation/continent

ok keeping track of places in this story is honestly a fucking pain so i just went ahead and asked rpp about it
they're divided like this:

municipalities > provinces > regions > nations

(a municipality is basically a town/city/village/etc.)

it's customary than when people talk about where they are, they only refer to the province and region and leave out the municipality unless it's relevant, it's similar to how an american for example might say they come from "texas" instead of from "cedar park" unless it was important to specify

malena > province
neofrene > region (the court of neofrene is a separate thing referring to where in neofrene the judges live)
maldevara > nation

we have a few more examples from i1-5rd:
dekarzi > province
gdyskoti > region
anselir > nation

courofor > province
jesenne > region
anselir > maldevara

passryne is the only example of a municipality so far, but we don't know what province it's in

> Peso - "the basic unit of money of several Latin American Countries"

peso is also the currency of the philippines so it's most likely taken from that

> "Two crisp bills" - we say notes over here so I'm guessing from what was said above is that it's American pronunciation

yeah a "bill" is basically paper money as opposed to coins. maldevara has its own variation of english that is /mostly/ british english with some exceptions

most of the other words are british:
supermarket vs grocery store
queue vs line
biscuits are considered a type of cookie (unlike in america where it's like... a scone)
trolley vs cart
soft toys vs plushies

a few are not:
bills vs notes
newscaster vs newsreader
dish soap vs washing-up liquid (dish soap is less common than dishwashing liquid though)

we also have "cart lot" which doesn't seem to be a real term but looks like it means the same as a parking lot/car park. other chapters have a few examples of made-up english terms though (i think the best example is how "poolside" means "dead")

it's interesting imo to see the slight variations of english used in the story when we take into consideration how important language is as a theme in the story

> When Jacques is saying about them there are odd letters in the sentence: Juju and stosto which must mean "Just stop" but gets cut out/gets over writen

i'm pretty sure the Panic Attack Section is actually about media, not jacques, the rambling style is similar to the kinds of thoughts that media has in a1-3 (albeit in a1 they're ciphered so it might be hard to tell)

also in that whole paragraph there's a line saying "rip that presumptuous heart out" which is probably when media rips the heart button out of the duck doll and gives it as a gift to jacques in the ending

yeah i think that's everything i wanted to add. for being "optional" the prose stories always have a shit ton of lore it's kinda insane, it's hard to remember everything (tbh i can only keep track because i keep my own google docs of things XD i really need to fix that up more). thanks for the poste it's good to see other people's observations in one place

Oh my gosh sorry for all the incorrect stuff It was rlly late for me and to be honest writing stuff about this is like a bloody essay lol

I got mixed up with the time-measure and space-measure oof

I don't know if you can see the hidden one's but there's one that expands on about where they say bon and bien I did on and some possible theories on some meanings and that.


Yeah for the money I also put it might also be in Philippines

Won't say where I'm from but we use Biritish terms not American so maybe a slight mix up or something lmao XD

Sadly there isn't any picture attached or if there is my screen won't let me see it.
Has the BBS background/format changed?
It's not white anymore and it's kind of a brownish and light skin colour sceem and unfortunately it won't let me see the pages pages when you had to click on the (Japanese?) words highlighted in blue to see the other side of the page. :/

Unfortunately I'm not able to see the secret proses (like the one when you play the video game of sar at the end)
and the Official one's with links like;
Curator of the missing
I think there was one of Bien maybe where you go on Fermata and some words are highlighted, same with I1-5 when sar says the pages (unless that's the same as the one's you see on screen)
and I think one that was mentioned on Anthony of his portrait.

If able would you be able to show me the pictures of them? It's annoying since it's either my connection or it's just being a pain :/

following all the lore is hard tbh because there's so much cant blame you for forgetting some thigns Lol

what device are you using, phone, pc, tablet etc?

the theme of the bbs has always been the brown one but it looks better on a computer. on mobile there's a default mobile theme (the one with the japanese text) so you must have accidentally switched to pc view, you can try switching back by clearing your cookies of the bbs or by using a different browser that you havent opened the bbs on before.

on mobile, the button for pc view is at the very top so avoid pressing that if you want to avoid it but tbh the pc view theme looks fine for me even on mobile but maybe it just looks weird on other devices, fc2's a weird website.

if you mean the buttons to go to the next pages/older posts theyre at the very bottom instead of the top

idk why it lets you switch from mobile to pc but not back but whatever

also what do you see when you try to go to the hidden updates? if you're on mobile you might not be able to view it on the browser but you might find it in your downloads folder (make sure your phone/tablet has a pdf viewer installed). lmk if that doesn't work

the links for all hidden updates are also in the archive (https://breadavota.blog.fc2.com/e/archive) but the text used for them is invisible so you have to highlight all the text/"select all" to see them, there's four prose stories and one bread crumb
the prose stories again you will need a pdf viewer installed if you're on mobile, the bread crumb if it won't open on a pdf viewer you might also need google drive

yeah inconvenient as hell but breadavota has always been hard to read on mobile, the website is very pc-oriented XD

posts with attached pics should have the pics at the top right but the one comparing jacques subspecies to other crowd is in annotation 1 part 2 if you want to look for it yourself

i1-5 doesnt have any extra hidden content yeah, the two things he shows bien are the brownish journal pages with the weird rambly writing, and then the research paper about the anselir-maldevaran migration

I'm on tablet. It suddenly went back to normal again so I'm fine now.
But I still can't go on any secret proves or bread crumbs :/
I wanted to point out some bits of other stuff that's really interesting.
1: you know Bien's ref sheet? Well if you look on his left wing (viewers right) very carefully you'll see what looks like an eye.
Your theory on Bien having some Marginal-Demon hybrid could be most likely possible.

2: on the secret link to the 'static' in the clap page it sounds like morse code of sorts.
I did morse code in school so I might be able to decode it if it is.
But since it's an audio morse code I'll have to use the link of it to translate.

huh weird, i'll try to see if i can have them posted somewhere, or i'll ask rpp if they can find a way to do that

the clap page messages are a mystery with so little in the current canon to make sense of that tbh i've just been ignoring them for now xDD

Thank you!
Yeah I can be annoying when that happens. XD

I don't blame ya. It sounds more like radio static or something
But for it too be that long idk

The hidden/bonus updates from before have now been uploaded as static webpages. I hope that these function better than the old external downloadable files. Please inform me if there are any more issues.

https://breadavota.web.fc2.com/mfwwhen.html
https://breadavota.web.fc2.com/alniente.html
https://breadavota.web.fc2.com/begood.html
https://breadavota.web.fc2.com/italwaysrains.html
https://breadavota.web.fc2.com/curatorofthemissing.html

Thank you.

There were no problems at all and I was able to see them without issues.

Since the device I use it's hard to go onto stuff like PC websites (if you need explicit permission) but Google docs unfortunately don't work for me - they just show the loading sign.

I've tried to look at google docs before and you need an account :/

I'm glad that it works for you now then, I was already planning to move it to somewhere on FC2 itself as Google always gave me accessibility issues but I haven't had the time to code a website for it until now.

Now that I have it set up though, any future bonus/hidden updates should be posted on the website instead of as an external PDF/document.

That's good. I think it's always harder for mobile users to access some sites since their browser can block it for protecting & that.

Were there any pictures on any of the hidden ones?
I saw the one with Bon & Bien (Be good) but was just checking incase I missed anything like a title image that usually appears at the top of the screen.

Oh there was one after the Love love nightmare but it wouldn't let me click.

Is that one the one underneath when Bon speaks and it's highlighted?

Yes, it's always a challenge to code the website to be mobile-friendly as it is.

'Be Good' is the only comic, the others so far are prose stories without any images.

The one alongside the Love Love Nightmare MV [ D1: From Violence Comes the Birth of You ] was not linked externally but instead is hidden in the same page as the LLN MV itself. It's the hidden comic if you click Bien's last dialogue [ 'I wish my father wasn't exiled.' ] and it features a look into the 'alternate timeline' that Ava is trying to teach Bien to create.

True. sorry for any inconveniences.

Yes, I've read that one.
I find it interesting and funny that we see Bread in it and then in A1-5 she's seen with the star that was Jacques when he gave it to her in the alt timeline XD

Ah I was wondering is it okay to do cosplay of the characters or even make mini dolls (as fanmade not for money lol)

I might try to cosplay Charlotte or Bon in one of their outfits before exile.

As for the dolls maybe a mini Bread or Jacques but be warned it might just look like a ragdoll or somethin' even tho it'll be all sewing and handmade.

It is no worries; it is more convenient for me when people report any bugs/issues with the website anyway so I know what needs fixing. [ I still need to fix the videos because they're completely broken on some browsers... lmao! ]

Indeed, truly Bread's true nature and abilities are a mystery. ;P

> Ah I was wondering is it okay to do cosplay of the characters or even make mini dolls (as fanmade not for money lol)

Yes, gift works of any kind are permitted. We can also share them on the website's gift works page if they are sent to us [ only with permission, of course ].

Considering I make my own dolls of the characters I would be happy if others also did so. Doll-making is an underrated art that I think more people should try out.

If I see any I'll report the problems then lmao

She sure is, makes me wonder how she was even able to enter the au.

Thanks!

I might post my gift works on here since I remember it saying on the gw page to email but unfortunately I am unable to.

Permission to put them on their is fine too though I won't share cosplays (privacy & safety) only art and dolls.

I used to do sewing so I only have a bit of experience but those were with bags but doll making seems like a good hobby :3

- to Gui (Or whoever even reads this blog and is a breadposter lmao)

I've just noticed if you look at Def-se's and Mirasol's ref they're literally the only ones that break the fourth wall by talking to use directly.
Interesting, since we haven't really (At least that I can remember) seen anything of the sorts.
Interesting...

Oh and Curator's ref too.

Also like to point out if no one's noticed but it says on her ref her status is "questionable" instead of Unconditionally Immortal like the rest of the Marginals